Commons:Deletion requests/2024/01/19
January 19[edit]
File:Egretta thula near a river in Mexico.jpg[edit]
Low quality and Irrelevant photo Juan Carlos Fonseca Mata (talk) 01:17, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
Files in Category:Red Barn restaurants[edit]
These files were uploaded because their statuses as trademarks expired, but there's no indication that their copyrights have expired.
-BRAINULATOR9 (TALK) 01:26, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. While I cannot find examples of these three particular character drawings in vintage Red Barn advertisements and merchandise, the vast majority of contemporary pieces with these three characters bear no copyright notice. It should be safe to keep these per {{PD-US-no notice}}. IronGargoyle (talk) 20:28, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
File:금융감독원.jpg[edit]
Obviously modern building. There is no commercial freedom of panorama in South Korea, and unless the architect has been dead for more than 70 years, this building is presumed copyrighted and unfree for commercial Creative Commons licensing distribution on Wikimedia. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 01:28, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
Keep 단순한 업무용 건물에까지 파노라마의 자유에 대한 소송을 제기한 사례는 대한민국에 없고, 없을 것입니다. 한국과 관련된 사진 자료에 대해 과도하게 엄격한 규정을 적용한다면 위키미디어 운동에 참여할 한국인은 남아나지 않을 것이 불보듯 뻔합니다.--Trainholic (talk) 17:30, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
File:Waleed Ismail.jpg[edit]
License laundering, the original source is here which is not freely licensed. Lolekek (talk) 01:48, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
File:자생한방병원(강남).jpg[edit]
Violation of architectural copyright. The South Korean copyright law does not allow commercial freedom of panorama. It is one of the works authored by Haeahn Architecture and was completed in 2017. Commercial Creative Commons licensing permission from the author (Haeahn Architecture) is required. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 02:06, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
Keep 단순한 병원 건물에까지 파노라마의 자유에 대한 소송을 제기한 사례는 대한민국에 없고, 없을 것입니다. 한국과 관련된 사진 자료에 대해 과도하게 엄격한 규정을 적용한다면 위키미디어 운동에 참여할 한국인은 남아나지 않을 것이 불보듯 뻔합니다.--Trainholic (talk) 17:31, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
- (Google Translated as "There is no case in Korea where a lawsuit has been filed regarding the freedom of panoramas, even to simple hospital buildings, and there will never be one. If overly strict regulations are applied to photo materials related to Korea, it is clear that there will be no Koreans left to participate in the Wikimedia movement.")
- @Trainholic: sorry, but the law is the law, even if it is harsh. Why don't you all convince the Korean legislature to remove the fourth condition at Article 35(2), if you don't want to have more photos of Korea be deleted from the site? Any non-commercial restriction like that is not compatible with commercial licensing requirements of Wikimedia Commons. It is not a loss for Wikimedia Commons if there are fewer (or no more) Koreans left to contribute here though; Wikimedia Commons survived even if there is limited coverage of many countries because of those countries not allowing complete or commercial Freedom of Panorama. Best example is the United Arab Emirates: it is not properly represented here as more than 50% of UAE is of buildings whose architects haven't died for more than 70 years (like Burj Khalifa), but still Commons survived. It is the initiative of Wikimedia Korea to change the copyright law of Korea – to entirely remove the fourth condition of Article 35(2). JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 22:14, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
File:Zeeshaan Shah at Barrett Hodgson University Conference.jpg[edit]
Unused, low resolution. Wikidata item deleted. William Graham (talk) 02:34, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
File:Romme-Bridge-Canasta Blatt franzoesisches Bild.jpg[edit]
DE: möglicherweise urheberrechtlich problematisch
EN: possible copyright problem Arnulf zu Linden (talk) 02:36, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Please clarify. These card images look very old, and their origin is somewhere in the 14th century. PaterMcFly (talk) 09:35, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Redraws for this card deck may be done later than 1950. German copyright is very strong and gives very long copyright protection periods.--Arnulf zu Linden (talk) 19:05, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- I know, and it doesn't seem easy. I do know that these really change rarely and the design is clearly not modern, but it appears this needs some book to verify the age. There are books which describe the origins of these cards, but that means searching :-( PaterMcFly (talk) 13:31, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
- PS: Hier gibt's ein paar alte Kartenblätter zum Vergleichen. PaterMcFly (talk) 13:34, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
- I know, and it doesn't seem easy. I do know that these really change rarely and the design is clearly not modern, but it appears this needs some book to verify the age. There are books which describe the origins of these cards, but that means searching :-( PaterMcFly (talk) 13:31, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
- Redraws for this card deck may be done later than 1950. German copyright is very strong and gives very long copyright protection periods.--Arnulf zu Linden (talk) 19:05, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
File:Skatblatt Turnierbild.jpg[edit]
DE: möglicherweise urheberrechtlich problematisch
EN: possible copyright problemArnulf zu Linden (talk) 02:37, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- The four-colored French deck is clearly a newer development officially used since 1994.--2A02:908:1464:EDA0:8976:7BEF:FFDA:2434 18:59, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
File:Doppelkopfblatt franzoesisches Bild.jpg[edit]
DE: möglicherweise urheberrechtlich problematisch
EN: possible copyright problem Arnulf zu Linden (talk) 02:38, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- These playing cards are copyrighted by F.X. Schmid. Marking them as your own work is copyfraud. --2A02:908:1464:EDA0:8976:7BEF:FFDA:2434 18:47, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
File:Kartenspiele Deckblaetter.jpg[edit]
DE: möglicherweise urheberrechtlich problematisch
EN: possible copyright problem Arnulf zu Linden (talk) 02:38, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
File:Schafkopf Tarock bayerisches Bild.jpg[edit]
DE: möglicherweise urheberrechtlich problematisch
EN: possible copyright problem Arnulf zu Linden (talk) 02:39, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep According to https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spielkarte#Deutsches_Blatt the Bavarian cards developed from 1650, so they're clearly in the public domain. PaterMcFly (talk) 09:30, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Redraws for this card deck may be done later than 1950. German copyright is very strong and gives very long copyright protection periods.--Arnulf zu Linden (talk) 19:09, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
File:NamsanTower.JPG[edit]
No freedom of panorama in South Korea A1Cafel (talk) 03:52, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Similar case: File:Namsan and Seoul TV tower.jpg See this. Ox1997cow (talk) 03:32, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
Kept: no valid reason for deletion. --Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 02:34, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
File:NamsanTower.JPG[edit]
I do not think it is de minimis here. As it is being used on English Wikipedia about the tower (added through this edit), the image can be understood as prominently showing the copyrighted work at the upper half of the image. Cropping the work leaves an image not faithful to the context of the file title which the image originally intends to depict. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 02:42, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Comment It was my wrong decision. I thought it was similar that File:Namsan and Seoul TV tower.jpg which was undeleted per Commons:Undeletion_requests/Archive/2021-02#N_Seoul_Tower_photos_were_deleted_without_FoP. Ox1997cow (talk) 03:05, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
File:Invitaciones-digital CHEMOGRAMM.jpg[edit]
Qualität Juniperi (talk) 02:56, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
File:Namsan and Seoul TV tower.jpg[edit]
No freedom of panorama in South Korea A1Cafel (talk) 03:52, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
- Keep Undeleted image. See this. Ox1997cow (talk) 03:31, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
Kept: per discussion. --Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 02:34, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
File:Namsan and Seoul TV tower.jpg[edit]
Once deleted, then restored as probably satisfying de minimis inclusion. However, the tower seems to be prominent here, right at the upper center and taking half of the image, with the cityscape becoming secondary at the bottom part. There are no other objects to accompany or obscure the tower. I doubt this is de minimis. Same concern from Commons:Deletion requests/File:NamsanTower.JPG. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 02:57, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- I would like to know why the decision was made to undelete this image. Ox1997cow (talk) 03:09, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
File:Chirag.jpg[edit]
This file was initially tagged by Jeraxmoira as Copyvio (Copyvio) and the most recent rationale was: Looks like a selfie. Author needs to confirm if he is the subject. Mhhossein talk 04:33, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
Files uploaded by Antipus (talk · contribs)[edit]
Probably false claim of free license. The oldest archived copy of the source site, from 2012, does not show anything that indicates the photo as being under a free CC license. The oldest archived copy of the terms of use page, from October 2012, does indicate that materials on the website cannot be modified or used for commercial purposes without permission from the site.
JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 06:45, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
File:Blue Mary (30532627686).jpg[edit]
See Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Apia Cathedral. For the sculpture, it appears to be part of the new cathedral, as it seems slightly distinct from the one at the old cathedral that aged and has some tears (this probably indicates the sculpture was remade for the new cathedral). JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 07:20, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
File:WS-Apia-Immac-concept.jpg[edit]
Same case as Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Apia Cathedral. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 07:21, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
File:ITS logo.svg[edit]
COM:SPAM, promo image uploaded by company, no use Gnomingstuff (talk) 07:27, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. No Wikipedia articles for this company, but there seems to be a lot of coverage in independent sources. IronGargoyle (talk) 15:24, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
File:Xhamia e vogël në Ferizaj.jpg[edit]
Unreliable public domain claim, no indication that the unidentified photographer has been dead for 70 years, and this is unlikely for a photograph taken in 1950. The absence of a claim to intellectual property is insufficient. Verbcatcher (talk) 07:27, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
File:Ovits Family.jpg[edit]
This file was initially tagged by 0x0a as Speedy (Speedydelete) and the most recent rationale was: No indication of free license on the website. 0x0a (talk) 07:58, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
File:Durex.png[edit]
Given Commons:Deletion requests/File:Durex logo.svg, this probably should be deleted as well. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:24, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
File:Durex (cropped).png[edit]
Given Commons:Deletion requests/File:Durex logo.svg, this probably should be deleted as well. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:24, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
File:Csm DE Bruessel 2018 1 15fd6378ae.jpg[edit]
possible copyvio from https://www.arc.ed.tum.de/ltg/mitarbeiter/prof-dr-phil-habil-dietrich-erben/ M2k~dewiki (talk) 11:03, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
File:Maharana Pratap Mewad.jpg[edit]
This image is watermarked and found everywhere on the Internet, certainly not like "own work". 0x0a (talk) 11:17, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- One more: File:Maharana pratap.jpg, another user of same pattern: 2010269chaitrar, as I noted on Commons:Deletion requests/A. R. Krishna Shastry. ─ The Aafī (talk) 15:38, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
File:Chalk art.jpg[edit]
2007 street art, copyrighted motif Mateus2019 (talk) 11:30, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
File:Abschied von 1914.jpg[edit]
possible copyvio, artist de:Friedrich Hell (Maler) died in 1957. M2k~dewiki (talk) 12:02, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hallo,
- Das Bild ist ein Scan aus dem Oeuvrekatalog der unter Literatur beim Artikel angegeben ist, soll ich das noch durch einen Beleg ergänzen?
- lg Florian Kojanis (talk) 08:35, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hallo @Kojanis: die Urheberrechte sind noch abgelaufen (siehe Bild)
- 2024-1957 = 67 < 75
- M2k~dewiki (talk) 18:42, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hallo @Kojanis: die Urheberrechte sind noch abgelaufen (siehe Bild)
File:Friedrich Hell Stillleben mit Astern.jpg[edit]
possible copyvio (c) Friedrich Hell M2k~dewiki (talk) 12:02, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hallo,
- das Bild ist in meinem Besitz und von mir fotografiert worden
- lg Florian Kojanis (talk) 08:37, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
File:Beijing Sunset2.jpg[edit]
This file was initially tagged by Nkon21 as Copyvio (copyvio) and the most recent rationale was: Not own work, found elsewhere on the web prior to upload date
Converted to regular DR to allow for discussion, as no evidence was provided. -- Túrelio (talk) 13:32, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
Same situation with: File:Guangzhou Night.jpg
File:Surakiart Sathirathai.jpg[edit]
Unclear author information, note that anonymous work are also under copyright protection A1Cafel (talk) 14:58, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
File:PM Anwar bin Ibrahim.png[edit]
Government portrait was copyrighted in Malaysia, still within 50 p.m.a. of the country A1Cafel (talk) 15:08, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
File:Поле соняшник1.jpg[edit]
Я більше не хочу, щоб мої фото були у вільному доступі Наталія Рута (talk) 18:58, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
Я більше не хочу, щоб мої фото були у вільному доступі Наталія Рута (talk) 19:00, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
File:Поле соняшник.jpg[edit]
Я більше не хочу, щоб мої фото були у вільному доступі Наталія Рута (talk) 19:01, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
File:Комета.jpg[edit]
Я більше не хочу, щоб мої фото були у вільному доступі Наталія Рута (talk) 19:01, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
File:Івана купала, Уманщина, 29.jpg[edit]
Я більше не хочу, щоб мої фото були у вільному доступі Наталія Рута (talk) 19:02, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
File:Івана купала, Уманщина, 23.jpg[edit]
Я більше не хочу, щоб мої фото були у вільному доступі Наталія Рута (talk) 19:02, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
File:Івана Купайла, Уманщина, 7.jpg[edit]
Я більше не хочу, щоб мої фото були у вільному доступі Наталія Рута (talk) 19:03, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
File:Wick Farm, near Ditchling by Charles Knight.jpg[edit]
This file was initially tagged by Netherzone as Copyvio (copyvio) and the most recent rationale was: While the painting may be out of copyright, the Metadata for the photograph clearly states © Victoria and Albert Museum, London For 2D art, we do not care about copyright tage of the museums, but if this is this Charles Knight, the artist died in 1990, and the artwork will be out of copyright in 2061. Ymblanter (talk) 19:38, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Ymblanter, the painting was done for the British government as part of the Recording Britain scheme and therefore had Crown copyright (rather that it being the copyright of Knight). The HMSO has declared the expiry of Crown copyright worldwide. If you look at any of the Recording Britain paintings on Wikipedia commons they all say the same thing.
- Netherzone, could this issue be overcome by putting Victoria and Albert museum in the caption to recognise that they now own it? I’m not sure how else to get the paintings up, would you be able to make any suggestions? Matthewfoliverathotmaildotcom (talk) 11:32, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
File:Lodge Barn, near Ditchling Charles Knight.jpg[edit]
This file was initially tagged by Netherzone as Copyvio (copyvio) and the most recent rationale was: While the painting may be out of copyright, the Metadata for the photograph clearly states © Victoria and Albert Museum, London For 2D art, we do not care about copyright tage of the museums, but if this is this Charles Knight, the artist died in 1990, and the artwork will be out of copyright in 2061. Ymblanter (talk) 19:39, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Ymblanter, the painting was done for the British government as part of the Recording Britain scheme and therefore had Crown copyright (rather that it being the copyright of Knight). The HMSO has declared the expiry of Crown copyright worldwide. If you look at any of the Recording Britain paintings on Wikipedia commons they all say the same thing.
- Netherzone, could this issue be overcome by putting Victoria and Albert museum in the caption to recognise that they now own it? I’m not sure how else to get the paintings up, would you be able to make any suggestions? Matthewfoliverathotmaildotcom (talk) 11:31, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
File:The Southdown, Underhill Road; Wickhurst Barn near Poynings looking Westwards.jpg[edit]
This file was initially tagged by Netherzone as Copyvio (copyvio) and the most recent rationale was: While the painting may be out of copyright, the Metadata for the photograph clearly states © Victoria and Albert Museum, London For 2D art, we do not care about copyright tage of the museums, but if this is this Charles Knight, the artist died in 1990, and the artwork will be out of copyright in 2061. Ymblanter (talk) 19:39, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Ymblanter, the painting was done for the British government as part of the Recording Britain scheme and therefore had Crown copyright (rather that it being the copyright of Knight). The HMSO has declared the expiry of Crown copyright worldwide. If you look at any of the Recording Britain paintings on Wikipedia commons they all say the same thing.
- Netherzone, could this issue be overcome by putting Victoria and Albert museum in the caption to recognise that they now own it? I’m not sure how else to get the paintings up, would you be able to make any suggestions? Matthewfoliverathotmaildotcom (talk) 11:30, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
File:Regency Shop, Market Street Lewes by Charles Knight.jpg[edit]
This file was initially tagged by Netherzone as Copyvio (copyvio) and the most recent rationale was: While the painting may be out of copyright, the Metadata for the photograph clearly states © Victoria and Albert Museum, London For 2D art, we do not care about copyright tage of the museums, but if this is this Charles Knight, the artist died in 1990, and the artwork will be out of copyright in 2061. Ymblanter (talk) 19:40, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Ymblanter, the painting was done for the British government as part of the Recording Britain scheme and therefore had Crown copyright (rather that it being the copyright of Knight). The HMSO has declared the expiry of Crown copyright worldwide. If you look at any of the Recording Britain paintings on Wikipedia commons they all say the same thing.
- Netherzone, could this issue be overcome by putting Victoria and Albert museum in the caption to recognise that they now own it? I’m not sure how else to get the paintings up, would you be able to make any suggestions? Matthewfoliverathotmaildotcom (talk) 11:24, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
File:After the Death of the Child by Alice Neel, 1927.jpg[edit]
The author died less than 70 years ago GualdimG (talk) 19:53, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hi there GualdimG, thank you for the note. I apologize for my mistake regarding the author's death year.
- This is indeed grounds for revision, but I don't believe this constitutes a reason for deletion.
- This work is in the public domain in the United States because it was published (or registered with the U.S. Copyright Office) before January 1, 1929.
- For context, Alice Neel herself is American.
- Due to its public domain status, I do not believe the image should be deleted.
- Thanks and please let me know if further information/qualification is needed in order to keep it posted.
- Evedawn99 (talk) 22:33, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
File:Carlos Enriquez by Alice Neel, 1926.jpg[edit]
The author died less than 70 years ago GualdimG (talk) 19:54, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
The author died less than 70 years ago GualdimG (talk) 19:55, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hi there GualdimG, thank you for the note. I have left a similar message on other deletion requests.
- I apologize for my mistake regarding the author's death year.
- Like with the other tagged images, this is indeed grounds for revision, but I don't believe this constitutes a reason for deletion.
- This work is in the public domain in the United States because it was published (or registered with the U.S. Copyright Office) before January 1, 1929.
- For context, Alice Neel herself is American.
- Due to its public domain status, I do not believe the image should be deleted.
- Thanks and please let me know if further information/qualification is needed in order to keep it posted.
- Evedawn99 (talk) 22:33, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
File:French Girl by Alice Neel, c. 1923.jpg[edit]
The author died less than 70 years ago GualdimG (talk) 19:56, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hi there GualdimG, thank you for the note. I have left a similar message on other deletion requests.
- I apologize for my mistake regarding the author's death year.
- Like with the other tagged images, this is indeed grounds for revision, but I don't believe this constitutes a reason for deletion.
- This work is in the public domain in the United States because it was published (or registered with the U.S. Copyright Office) before January 1, 1929.
- For context, Alice Neel herself is American.
- Due to its public domain status, I do not believe the image should be deleted.
- Thanks and please let me know if further information/qualification is needed in order to keep it posted.
- Evedawn99 (talk) 22:33, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
File:Kenneth Fearing.PNG[edit]
The author died less than 70 years ago GualdimG (talk) 19:57, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- "This media file is in the public domain in the United States. This applies to U.S. works where the copyright has expired, often because its first publication occurred prior to January 1, 1929, and if not then due to lack of notice or renewal. See this page for further explanation."
- do you have any evidence that the work is marked (c) or was renewed ? published in 1961 [1] , and no renewal of magazine [2] it was exhibited at MoMa in 1995, 1996 and 2021.--Frypie (talk) 22:49, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
File:Mother and Child by Alice Neel, 1927.jpg[edit]
The author died less than 70 years ago GualdimG (talk) 19:58, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hi there GualdimG, thank you for the note. I have left a similar message on other deletion requests.
- I apologize for my mistake regarding the author's death year.
- Like with the other tagged images, this is indeed grounds for revision, but I don't believe this constitutes a reason for deletion.
- This work is in the public domain in the United States because it was published (or registered with the U.S. Copyright Office) before January 1, 1929.
- For context, Alice Neel herself is American.
- Due to its public domain status, I do not believe the image should be deleted.
- Thanks and please let me know if further information/qualification is needed in order to keep it posted.
- Evedawn99 (talk) 22:33, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
File:Untitled Cows in a Field by Alice Neel, 1927.jpg[edit]
The author died less than 70 years ago GualdimG (talk) 19:59, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hi there GualdimG, thank you for the note. I have left a similar message on other deletion requests.
- I apologize for my mistake regarding the author's death year.
- Like with the other tagged images, this is indeed grounds for revision, but I don't believe this constitutes a reason for deletion.
- This work is in the public domain in the United States because it was published (or registered with the U.S. Copyright Office) before January 1, 1929.
- For context, Alice Neel herself is American.
- Due to its public domain status, I do not believe the image should be deleted.
- Thanks and please let me know if further information/qualification is needed in order to keep it posted.
- Evedawn99 (talk) 22:33, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
File:Suichan.jpg[edit]
NoFoP
This mascot was made by Sakai City Waterworks and Sewerage Bureau on November, 2006. This mascot cannot be used freely under the Character Design Handling Guidelines of Sakai City Waterworks and Sewerage Bureau. The United States Copyright Law does not allow free reproductions of non-architectural artistic works located in public spaces (this includes monuments and statues), so photographs of non-architectural modern artistic works are not considered as "free works" on Wikimedia Commons. Nnkrkrhhdi (talk) 20:08, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete This mascot was made on November, 2006. --Nnkrkrhhdi (talk) 20:19, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
File:LYTALINA in 2023.jpg[edit]
This file was initially tagged by Oesterreicher12 as Copyvio (copyvio) and the most recent rationale was: see [3] It appears that the file was uploaded on Commons several months before its publication on Commons. This post mentions 17 December 2023 as posting date whilst the image was uploaded here on 18 August 2023. ─ The Aafī (talk) 20:54, 19 January 2024 (UTC)