Commons:Deletion requests/2023/12/30

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Deletion requests on 30 December 2023

December 30[edit]

File:Yusuf Hussain Humayun.jpg[edit]

This does not appear to be Yusuf Hussain Humayun. Not sure who this is. gobonobo + c 00:46, 30 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Keep: That's not a valid reason to delete the file. Title and description should be changed if it's a different person.Syrus257 (talk) 07:20, 13 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sil - Wrong crop! Yusuf H. H. has his photo here. 31.143.250.104 04:41, 14 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Uploader's comment: It does look like a wrong crop and a matter of incorrect naming. I am also not sure about the identity. So, I don't see any issues deleting this picture unless someone can identify him. ~ Nahid Talk 18:11, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:Gen. Martínez con miembros de su gabinete circa 1932.jpg[edit]

image not in public domain PizzaKing13 (talk) 01:07, 30 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:01bIMG 8551 (53414317972).jpg[edit]

Copyrighted poster Trade (talk) 01:50, 30 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:Centre santé 4.jpg[edit]

Copyrighted illustrations on sign Trade (talk) 01:56, 30 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Bonjour, j'aimerais avoir plus d'information sur cette demande de suppression Kondotikodro (talk) 19:16, 30 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Asclepias: --Trade (talk) 21:14, 30 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:Huelga de brazos caidos sonsonate 1944 El Salvador.jpg[edit]

image is not in public domain PizzaKing13 (talk) 02:28, 30 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:Edición desde PC en Wikipeetia.webm[edit]

screenshot of Google, not in scope  — billinghurst sDrewth 03:13, 30 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 Keep. This is a 26-minute long video, not an image. It appears to be an instructional video in the w:Wayuu language about how to edit Wikipedia. Omphalographer (talk) 05:46, 30 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:Fuerza Pública de Costa Rica.png[edit]

The file link points to a hosting in the National Assembly of Costa Rica website, however the creator of the logo isn't the National Assembly of Costa Rica (another institution must be assumed, very likely the proper Fuerza Pública de Costa Rica). Therefore, the actual licensing of the logo cannot be that of the hosted site (COM:LAUNDER). Since there is no clear origin, I create the DR. Taichi (talk) 06:15, 30 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

In that case, i´ll change the source to the site of the Ministry of Public Security of Costa Rica, who is the "chief" and administrator of the Fuerza Pública, and has a licence of CC BY 4.0 DEED. Mito0504 (talk) 06:42, 30 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:Усатюк Егор Владимирович.jpg[edit]

Используется злоумышленниками Rndthernd (talk) 06:56, 30 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Удалить Rndthernd (talk) 06:59, 30 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

delete2 image=File:Усатюк Егор Владимирович.jpg|reason=Используется злоумышленниками Rndthernd (talk) 07:02, 30 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:Emilio vedova, senza titolo (prova impossibile), 1985.jpg[edit]

This file violates copyright Carlo Dominioni (talk) 12:50, 30 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This file is explicitly athorized thorugh WLM OTRS, if you had red the description or the note in the category (NB: Museum explicitly authorized the upload of its contemporary art collection for WLM 2016 (See authorization for these modern artists copyright artworks by the museum.). --Sailko (talk) 09:31, 31 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
See this, closed with law citation by User:Ruthven --Sailko (talk) 18:38, 7 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Sailko Do you have the VRT ticket number for checking? Thanks Ruthven (msg) 08:50, 9 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Ruthven It did not go thour VTR, but through WLM organizers, this was already discussed here, the document was visible at the time, you already closed the other DR after checking that. Maybe you can ask again User:CristianCantoro or User:Dario Crespi (WMIT) to double-triple-check-it again. --Sailko (talk) 14:09, 9 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Sailko I get: This site can’t be reached. The web page at https://wikimediaitalia.owncube.com/index.php/s/jENqDulQFnqN1I5?path=%2FRavenna%20(RA)%2FIstituzione%20MAR%20-%20WLM%202016 might be temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to a new web address.
Not a valid permission to me. Permissions must be validated by community approved users (i.e. COM:VRT) and be stored permanently on WMF's servers, unless they are freely accessible somewhere. This is clearly not the case. Ruthven (msg) 09:32, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ciao Ruthven, l'autorizzazione non è passata da OTRS, ma tramite Wiki Loves Monuments. Io non so che fine fanno quelle autorizzazioni, magari puoi provare a sentire Christian Cenci (responsabile di quell'anno) o Dario (responsabile attuale) o Federico, però ti assicuro che era consultabile e che autorizzava esplicitamente "le opere" di quel museo. Tu stesso l'hai letta e hai salvato un altro file simile di questa collezione nel 2018, nella procedura che ti linkavo. Da una parte voglio difendere in tutti i modi possibili questi file perché sono le tra le pochissime foto di arte contemporanea che abbiamo, in alcuni casi veramente uniche; dall'altra sono stanco di dover rispiegare ogni volta come stanno le cose e le autorizzazioni ottenute, anche perché io non faccio parte dell'organizzazione di WLM Italia, e se ci sono dei problemi su come vengono registrate e archiviate le autorizzazioni è un problema che va risolto a monte, non può essere scaricato sulle spalle dei singoli fotografi. Io so che quando ho caricato ero in buona fede e avevo le spalle coperte dall'organizzazione del concorso. Il mio l'ho fatto con onestà e con dedizione, se però devo poi perdere continuamente tempo a difendermi dagli attacchi della community più "scettica", a un certo punto il gioco non vale più la candela. In questo momento ci sono tre procedure di cancellazione su file legati quell'edizione di WLM. Se le autorizzazioni passate sono carta straccia, io dovrò ridimensionare notevolmente l'affidamento che faccio sul concorso, e perdere meno tempo nelle edizioni future a caricare grandi numeri di file in nome della conoscenza libera. --Sailko (talk) 11:40, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hello Ruthven, the authorization didn't go through OTRS, but via Wiki Loves Monuments. I don't know what happened to those authorizations; maybe you can try reaching out to Christian or Dario. However, I assure you that it was accessible and explicitly authorized "the works" of that museum. You yourself read it and saved another similar file from this collection in 2018, in the procedure I linked to you. On one hand, I want to defend these files in every possible way because they are among the very few photos of contemporary art we have, some of them truly unique; on the other hand, I'm tired of having to explain every time how things are and the obtained permissions, especially since I'm not part of the WLM Italy organization. If there are problems with how authorizations are recorded and archived, it's an issue that needs to be solved upstream, it can't be dumped on the shoulders of individual photographers. I know that when I uploaded, I did so in good faith and had the support of the contest's organization. I did my part with honesty and dedication, but if I have to constantly waste my time defending myself from the attacks of the more "skeptical" Commons community, at some point, the game is not worth the candle. At this moment, there are three deletion procedures on files related to that edition of WLM. If past authorizations are worthless, I will have to significantly reduce my reliance on the contest and spend less time in future editions uploading large numbers of files in the name of free knowledge. --Sailko (talk) 11:40, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Sailko Il fatto è che non possiamo affidarci alla mia memoria per le autorizzazioni (o alla memoria di chiunque). Il progetto ha degli utenti fidati che verificano le autorizzazioni segnalate (usando {{Licensereview}} ad esempio) oppure i ticket VRT. Se si monta un sistema di autorizzazioni parallelo, va fatto bene e rispettando le regole comunitarie, le quali vogliono che le autorizzazioni siano verificate. Se ciò non avviene, si corrono dei rischi, come ora che l'autorizzazione si è persa e il file va in cancellazione. Nessuno mette in discussione la tua buona fede, ma il sistema di gestione delle autorizzazioni che è chiaramente inaffidabile.
English: The point is that we cannot rely on my memory for authorisations (or anyone's memory). The project has trusted users who verify reported permissions (using {{Licensereview}} for example) or via VRT tickets. If a parallel authorisation system is set up, it must be done properly and in accordance with the community rules, which want the permissions to be verified. If this is not done, you will take risks, such as currently that the authorisation is lost and the file goes to DR. Nobody questions your good faith, but the permission management system, which is clearly unreliable.
Ruthven (msg) 12:10, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]


I asked the organizers to publish the authorization again --Sailko (talk) 18:28, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi @Ruthven. The authorizations is filed here now. I was told this is also accessible when you click on the WLM number in the photos. It clearly states "Collezione Mosaici Moderni" including opere d'arte ivi contenute (works of art there displayed). Since that museum has only contemporary works, the authorization explicitly allows all these works of arts. By the way the authorization was not renewed after 2016, so these files are even more precious, as now there are not any longer allowed. If you agree, please close this, and this and this. Thank you --Sailko (talk) 20:52, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I would recommend to the closing admin to link the permission in the file page and to validate it with {{Licensereview}}, in order not to restart this discussion again, new time the permissions server goes offline. Thanks Ruthven (msg) 14:20, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Files in Category:Tērbatas iela 14 (Riga)[edit]

no FOP in Latvia

Krd 16:21, 30 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I dislike this universal "no FOP". Architect Pekšens died in 1928. — Regards, Olgerts V (talk) 20:59, 30 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
 Keep per @Olgerts V: . Passes {{PD-old-architecture}} as the architect died more than 70 years ago. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 01:08, 31 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Per File:14 Terbatas iela.jpg: Architect: K.Pēkšēns, A. Medlingersv. lv:Artūrs_Mēdlingers (1880—1961). If that is not true, I'd withdraw the nomination. --Krd 08:52, 31 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Krd wait, what is the involvement of the 2nd architect in this building here? I can withdraw my comment and vote if the building is found to be a co-authorship work of those two architects. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 08:22, 4 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I don't know, I only have this information from the mentioned file page. I now replied to the permission sender in ticket:2023123010002714 and asked for further information. Krd 09:34, 4 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
There is no definite answer yet, but as of now I think we have to consider Artūrs_Mēdlingers as co-creator and delete the images per PCP. Please wait another few days at least. Krd 12:48, 5 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Per https://mantojums.lv/cultural-objects/7681: Autors: K.Pēkšēns, A.Medlingers  Delete --Krd 10:10, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:Bilbao - Museo Guggenheim - Wall Drawing 831 (Geometric Forms), de Sol LeWitt 9.JPG[edit]

This file violates copyright Carlo Dominioni (talk) 17:08, 30 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:Joseph Kosuth- Titled (Art ad Idea as Idea) The Word "Definition" (1966-68) (8476638687).jpg[edit]

This file violates copyright Carlo Dominioni (talk) 17:09, 30 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:Hans Hildenbrand 1914.jpg[edit]

This file, per the file name showing German photographer Hans Hildenbrand (1870–1957) in 1914, was uploaded in 2012 with a CC license tag as an "own work", which it is obviously not. As this very similar photograph (via [1]) from Hildenbrand's own studio (apparently the very same photo session, though dated to 1903 here) shows, the photo was almost certainly taken by Hildenbrand himself, most likely with some sort of self timer or similar. 1914 is not old enough for {{PD-old-assumed}}, so the file should be deleted. It can be restored in 2028, 70 years after Hildenbrand's death (no URAA problem). Rosenzweig τ 17:19, 30 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The immediate source for the photo is apparently Hildenbrand's 1915 passport, see here (last of the 6 images) in a 2014 newspaper article. The passport was probably shown in other books or articles before that. --Rosenzweig τ 17:30, 30 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  •  Keep I changed the license to "PD-EU-no author disclosure" and passport images have been "made public". They have been viewed by the person that stamped the passport. Passport images always have two copies made, one for the passport and one for the passport application, that the government keeps. While it is possible that he took the image on a timer, we really have no evidence for that. We have several other images of photographers and their passport images, and we have them as author=unknown. --RAN (talk) 16:51, 2 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'd say there is very significant doubt about your "no author disclosure" hypothesis when the other photo I linked above, from the same photo session, comes with a credit to Hans Hildenbrand. So even if we're not 100 % sure, the precautionary principle applies. And all that stuff about publication or not is irrelevant here. --Rosenzweig τ 18:53, 2 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
A professional photographer does not need an "anonymous assistant" to photograph himself in his own studio, nor does he need a mirror. And there is a credit to Hildenbrand himself. --Rosenzweig τ 00:13, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:Emfaniseis Kallitheas.jpg[edit]

All of the different kits present on this screenshot were already present under the form of wikicode. Don't see any real reason for their screenshot capture and the upload of the latter here on commons. 🏺ⲈⲨⲐⲨⲘⲈⲚⲎⲊ🏛️ ⲱⲑⲏⲥⲁⲧⲉ 19:39, 30 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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