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museum specimen[edit]

Hi, about this; as the description says, it was not a museum specimen, it was a specimen I personally found dead (like on the ground, during a walk). Syrio posso aiutare? 18:01, 27 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Syrio: Thanks! I realised you had found it dead, but assumed you had preserved it as a specimen for the photos, from the way it is presented. I have made a new category for them, which I hope is OK! - MPF (talk) 00:19, 28 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No, I just took the photos! (well actually I kept it for a while along with other dead bugs because I wanted to encase them in resin, but then I couldn't manage and it was too expensive and they got mold so I gave up and threw all out of the window XD
Yes this is fine, thanks! -- Syrio posso aiutare? 08:08, 28 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Aquila chrysaetos[edit]

About your changes to Aquila chrysaetos and Aquila chrysaetos in Sweden. Bengt Nyman (talk) 01:19, 18 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi Bengt - I fear they were all misidentified! Two were Buteo buteo, identifiable by their wing pattern, and the rest were all juvenile Haliaeetus albicilla, identified by their heavy bills, and wing and tail structure. Let me know if you need any more information. Hope this helps! - MPF (talk) 22:46, 17 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

All four pictures are of the same bird. Buteo buteo is not a possibility. Juvenile Haliaeetus albicilla is a possibility but unlikely based on the wing shape. Bengt Nyman (talk) 22:55, 17 June 2023 (UTC) Bengt Nyman (talk) 01:19, 18 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

P.S. The older Buteo buteo photos were mislabeled and I trust that you have recategorized them. The Aquila chrysaetos photos is another story for which I wish you could present better comparisons. Bengt Nyman (talk) 00:57, 18 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi @Bengt Nyman: - apologies for the delay in replying!
First, yes, I did recategorise and reformat the two Buteo buteo files (File:A7R01076 (51398263346).jpg and File:A7R01099 (51399000599).jpg) to add the correct names. You can check my edits by looking at the file histories for the images.
Second, I can assure you, the other four (File:NZ8 1228 (52947948471).jpg, File:NZ8 1212 (52947352002).jpg, File:NZ8 1227 (52947351857).jpg, File:NZ8 1229 (52948092059).jpg) are very definitely young Havsörn, most likely two years old (third calendar year, i.e., hatched 2021). There are several plumage and structural details that confirm this:
(1) The axillary ('armpit') feathers are pale/white. This applies to young Havsörn up to 4 years old; they are always dark brown in Kungsörn.
(2) The tail feathers are pale/white with dark fringes. This applies to young Havsörn up to 3 years old. In Kungsörn, juveniles have a white basal half and dark brown outer half (see e.g. File:AguilaReal4.jpg), while adults have an all-dark tail (e.g. File:AguilaReal4.jpg)
(3) The body feathering is mottled with white. This is a feature of young Havsörn 1.5 to 3 years old; it is not seen in newly fledged, nor older Havsörn, and never (not at any age) in Kungsörn.
(4) The tail structure, shortish with a triangular tip, fits young Havsörn. In Kungsörn, the tail is longer (equal to the wing width), and square-ended (when closed) to rounded (when fanned), never triangular-tipped.
(5) Less easy to visualise in all circumstances, but the wing is approximarely equal width along its length (roughly straight trailing edge), as is typical in Havsörn. In Kungsörn, the wing is narrower at the base, and broader at the outer secondaries, giving a gently curved trailing edge.
I hope this will help you understand why I changed the identities, and remain convinced your photos show a Havsörn! Best wishes, MPF (talk) 23:59, 18 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Category:Requests for unblock[edit]

I noticed that some of the Unblock requests did not count as the templates were placed on the user page rather than the talk page which seems like an oversight

I have moved these unblock requests onto the talk pages of the users in question. A lot of them never seen to never have been blocked in the first place so its just a matter of procedure for someone to decline them Trade (talk) 13:23, 3 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Bark[edit]

Why https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Maryhill_Museum_-_Kwakiutl_headring_01.jpg&diff=prev&oldid=780256947 ? That is the material this is made of, and there is no more specific subcat available. - Jmabel ! talk 16:43, 4 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It's not cedar bark; that's a translation error. I'll add the correct identification and find a more appropriate category when I've got a bit of time later this evening - MPF (talk) 17:44, 4 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Jmabel: - since there wasn't a suitable category, I've created Category:Thuja plicata (bark) for it - MPF (talk) 20:14, 4 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Yours sincerely, Komarof (talk) 06:45, 19 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Komarof: - agree, it was a copyvio; I've deleted it now. Thanks for spotting this! - MPF (talk) 10:47, 19 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for your prompt action. I'm afraid, Category:Mammals of the Soviet Union with all its subcategories consists entirely of images from the same non-free source. --Komarof (talk) 12:08, 19 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Komarof: Thanks! I've deleted all the ones you tagged as speedy delete; the ones you put in for deletion review I've left for now, in case anyone else wants to comment. - MPF (talk) 15:05, 19 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ara macao head[edit]

Please do not add incorrect categories to my images. You added captive to my image for some unknown reason. Have you changed categories on any other of my images? Charlesjsharp (talk) 10:52, 22 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Charlesjsharp: Which image are you talking about? Please add a link to it, so I know which one you are referring to. Categories are refined all the time, as the ever-growing number of files need to be re-sorted to finer scales of detail; sometimes errors can be made given the scale of the task. I need to see the individual case to see if it is an error or not. - MPF (talk) 10:58, 22 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
This one. I guess it was a good faith edit, but am cross as it is not an isolated incident: You've made an error before]. I pride myself on not taking images of captive animals, so please take more care editing the categories on my images. Charlesjsharp (talk) 11:15, 22 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Charlesjsharp: - thanks! Yes; but as before, there is no way to tell (and particularly not from the filename or thumbnail) that it is a wild bird: as a general rule, wild parrots are timid, and won't allow approach close enough for a head-shot like this. Yes, I am aware you don't take images of captive animals, but when dealing with a category with 200+ images, how can I know which are yours, without opening each individual image separately, and each time scrolling down to see the photographer's name? With now 95 million files on Commons, there just isn't the time to inspect every single one in that detail. That's why Cat-a-lot exists, to help categorise large numbers of files quickly. The overwhelming majority of close-up bird head-shots are of captive birds, except for a few human-habituated species like Mute Swan. So while unfortunate, occasional categorisation errors like I made here are incredibly hard to avoid completely. The best way to avoid them is to use more informative filenames; if it had been e.g. "File:Scarlet Macaw (Ara macao cyanopterus) head, wild, Copan.jpg", that would have been enough to make me pause and not use Cat-a-lot, but inspect the file individually for any subcategorisation. - MPF (talk) 13:57, 22 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm sure you try to do good work, but you musn't make naive assumptions like this. Experienced wildlife photographers can often get closer to an animal than in a zoo and use bigger lenses. It amounts to vandalism; not good behaviour for an admin. Charlesjsharp (talk) 14:30, 22 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Charlesjsharp: - I do try to, but it just isn't feasible given the volume of work that needs doing; it has to be semi-automated, or nothing would get done at all. Do please remember, one has to rely on the thumbnail and filename to make decisions. How am I supposed to recognise your wild photos among a sea of hundreds of pet and zoo shots, with nothing in either the filename or thumbnail to distinguish it? We are all volunteers here, and do our best in stretched circumstances, with new images pouring in far faster than can be dealt with individually. Take a look at Category:All media needing categories as of 2021, Category:All media needing categories as of 2022, Category:All media needing categories as of 2023, - 650,000 files from just the last 2½ years with no categories at all... how will they get categorised? - MPF (talk) 15:10, 22 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Most images without categories are not worth your effort. Just leave them Who cares? Commons should ignore the junk and not antagonize those of us who spend hours identifying, editing, uploading and categorizing images. Write a bot that ignores images that already have a binomial species name and some location category. Ignore all images with FP, VI and QI assessments - then your work will be less disruptive. I now have no idea how many of my categories you have changed in error. I use cat-a-lot all the time and it is time-consuming when I create a new category and recategorize images. And I have to check each one. Charlesjsharp (talk) 15:26, 22 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Charlesjsharp: Hi Charles - I wish I could "ignore the junk"! I can't, as other editors don't, so it ends up in the head species categories, and needs to be moved on to appropriate subcategories. Same goes for files with a scientific name and location, too - as just one example, one of the most frequent edits I do is moving files labelled "Columba livia" from Category:Columba livia into Category:Feral pigeons as they are not wild Rock Doves. And excluding FP, VI and QI doesn't work either, as captive birds frequently get those awards too - for many species, more often than wild individuals do (I have in the past made the suggestion that wild + geolocated should be a condition of eligibility for awards for bird, etc., pics, but others rejected that proposal). Hope this helps! - MPF (talk) 14:09, 24 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Quality Image Promotion[edit]

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Comments Good quality --Michielverbeek 05:14, 28 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Cortex Frangulae[edit]

Hi! You moved File:Cortex Frangulae by Danny S. - 001.JPG and File:Frangulae cortex 060103.jpg from Category:Frangula alnus to Category:Frangula alnus (herbarium specimens). I thought that "herbarium specimens" refers to herbarium vouchers collected for scientific (botanical) purposes. These photos shows imho dried cortex used as a medicine, I think better category would be something similar to Category:Uses of Berberis vulgaris. Regards, Salicyna (talk) 07:04, 17 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi @Salicyna: - a herbarium is a repository for any preserved dried plant material for any purpose; that is the original sense (in late mediaeval times, primarily for medical use, as in these examples), it doesn't have to be specifically for modern botanical research purposes. If there were more files, then a 'Uses of' category might be worth making; with just 2 files, I didn't think it was worth subdividing, but go ahead if you want to. - MPF (talk) 08:50, 17 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Sitka spruce[edit]

... would have been my guess just based on location, but I figured I wouldn't be doing anyone a favor with a guess. Thanks for confirming! (File:Water droplets on spruce.jpg)- Jmabel ! talk 02:17, 25 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Glad to help! I did at first think Picea × lutzii (the hybrid between Sitka Spruce and White Spruce), but while it does show possible signs of some White Spruce characters, they're not strong; for this one you need to go a bit further inland to the north/northeast (around Skagway) with a more continental climate, to see it as a significant component. - MPF (talk) 10:13, 25 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Yours sincerely, ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:47, 3 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Helmeted guinea fowls in Black Muscat park[edit]

Just an FYI - those are wild guinea fowls - Black Muscat park isn’t a zoo. - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 07:11, 25 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Can you pinpoint the precise location of Black Muscat Park within the green area on this map, please? I think you'll find that they're not wild ;-) - MPF (talk) 08:26, 25 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Apologies, you are correct - they are an introduced species but they are living in Black Muscat Park. They aren’t part of a zoo. Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 14:25, 25 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Can I ask why you define them as domesticated? They are not looked after by anyone. They aren’t part of a zoo and look after themselves in the park without any assistance from people. - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 14:31, 25 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Because they originate from escaped domesticated birds; they're not a naturally occurring wild species in the region. I checked a couple of Australian field guides too, and they only cite established feral populations for a few Great Barrier Reef islands off the Queensland coast, no mention of any feral populations anywhere around Sydney; apart from the Queensland birds, they only cite e.g. "Domestic escapes may persist here and there" (Simpson & Day 8th ed.). If these had been part of a documented established feral population, then a new category for feral populations could be created, but they don't even appear to be that. Hope this helps! - MPF (talk) 16:42, 25 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Oh, I see! Thanks, I had a feeling I had missed something. - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 18:53, 25 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Author request[edit]

Hello MPF, I am requesting the deletion of User:Judekkan and have it redirect to this userpage as that account has been abandon, and have Category:Barnstars made by Judekkan deleted; files have been migrated to Category:Barnstars made by Jerium. Category:Barnstars made by Jerm can also be deleted as those files have been migrated, User:Jerm is already a redirect to User:Judekkan. My identity has already been confirmed via checkuser, see link: [1], thank you and my apologies for the inconvenience. - Jerium (talk) 14:01, 30 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Done! I've also moved the two relevant user talk pages to User talk:Jerium/Archive 1 and User talk:Jerium/Archive 2; I'll add links to them to your current talk page - MPF (talk) 14:17, 30 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you so much! Jerium (talk) 14:17, 30 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello! You changed the file and its name. I have two questions:

  1. You gave no source for your changes. The only source in the file description is IUCN which is correct for the older version. This irritates any user and especially me as you are an administrator and should know better.
  2. Why don't you just ask me to correct the map with a better source? I'm an active user, I correct maps all the time. I don't want to be treated as if I wouldn't be there or approachable. NNW 11:01, 16 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi NNW - the source is IOC, which is the avian taxonomic authority followed by Commons, Wikispecies, and most wikipedias. The split is from several years ago, you can see mention of it at e.g. en:Orange Minivet and en:Scarlet Minivet. Hope this helps! - MPF (talk) 13:57, 16 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Now I know what your source was but no other user of this file. You still gave no explanation for not mentioning this in the file description or the file disk or giving me a note before you changed everything so that I could correct the map. And (new question on my side) why is this map an "outdated bird distribution map" although you changed it? You see: The main problem is a lack of information and communication. This whole discussion could have been avoided if you just have contacted be before. NNW 12:00, 17 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I get where you are coming from on contacting – but if everyone stopped to ask permission of original authors before doing any modification, and then waiting days / weeks / months / years for a response before being able to carry out an edit, nothing would ever get done. It defeats the whole purpose of a wiki, which is that things can be changed as and when needed, without having to ask or wait. Even just stopping to check if the original uploader is still active or not, adds substantially to scarce editing time. My own experience of asking original authors for extra information (typically asking for essential information on locations of photos where the uploader gave no details), is that in the great majority of cases, there is never any response at all, that asking is too often just a waste of time.
Of 'outdated bird distribution map', it means that it does not show the distribution of one currently accepted taxon, but a combination of two (or sometimes more) taxa that have been found not to be the same, perhaps not even each others' closest relatives. Quite often, species are split when they are shown to be paraphyletic, with one or more former subspecies being shown to be more closely related to other species, than they are to the species they were formerly included in. This makes these maps rather useless, as they don't show the relevant taxa on their own, and misleading when used in wikipedia articles where their mapping of two or more possibly unrelated species isn't conspicuously obvious in a small thumbnail. - MPF (talk) 16:47, 17 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yeah, that's the spirit of a collaborative project: Don't waste time on other users. Like naming sources is a waste of time, too. Sorry, that's too much ignorance for me. Bye. NNW 18:38, 17 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I've added the source update (yes, I should have added that before! Apologies for omitting that before) - MPF (talk) 21:41, 17 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Why renamed?[edit]

I'm certainly not going to undo [2], but what permissible criterion for a rename did this (and other similarly-named files) meet? I see nothing actively inaccurate about the initial name. - Jmabel ! talk 21:59, 10 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi Jmabel - it fits under criterion 2, "To change from a meaningless or ambiguous name to a name that describes what the image particularly displays" (my italics); generic gulls to naming the individual gull species gives greater precision. See also criterion 2 note 2.5, 'Including ... Generic category rather than specific item'. I will admit it is perhaps a borderline case, I very nearly didn't bother (and don't always in similar cases). Hope this helps! - MPF (talk) 22:13, 10 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
FWIW, I would not have moved in this case. If you look at the examples on the page you linked, none of them approach this. - Jmabel ! talk 01:27, 11 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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A1Cafel (talk) 02:57, 13 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

What has happened to the images that were categorised in it? Have they been deleted (I don't recollect seeing any deletion requests?), or recategorised out of it into cluttering up other subcategories that they were originally removed from so weren't "in the way" of other better quality photos? - MPF (talk) 09:58, 13 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
(talk page stalker) probably better asked on the CfD, or at least with a ping. - Jmabel ! talk 18:10, 13 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 23:20, 8 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]