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January 22[edit]
CropTool[edit]
Is CropTool down again? Rosiestep (talk) 01:01, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
- I get the error message "Wikimedia Toolforge Error. This Grid Engine web service cannot be reached. Please contact a maintainer of this tool.
- Tool maintainers can find more details from the documentation on Wikitech. tools-proxy-06.tools.eqiad.wmflabs; Wouter (talk) 11:07, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Rosiestep and Wouterhagens: The latest is at Commons talk:CropTool#Not working! — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 12:37, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, Jeff G.. ----Rosiestep (talk) 13:18, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Rosiestep: You're welcome. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 13:21, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
- The tool appears to be working again! Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 08:33, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Rosiestep: You're welcome. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 13:21, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, Jeff G.. ----Rosiestep (talk) 13:18, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Rosiestep and Wouterhagens: The latest is at Commons talk:CropTool#Not working! — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 12:37, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
- Just for info. Based on phab:T319653, gridengine deprecation date is 14 February 2024. Before that date if it is dead it most likely requires restarting. --Zache (talk) 17:24, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
Is someone willing to step up and salvage CropTool?[edit]
As things stand, Grid engine will go down once and for all in mid-February. Danmichaelo, who maintained CropTool, appears to be incommunicado, possibly due to some drama on en-wiki last year (somewhat more on this at Commons talk:CropTool#Not working! if you want it).
If no one takes over developing CropTool, the tool will simply go dead.
Sources are at https://github.com/danmichaelo/croptool. At a quick skim, they look reasonably well-written, if a bit under-commented. I'm entirely unfamiliar with the Grid Engine (not even what functionality it delivers) and wouldn't offhand know where to begin in determining where are the dependencies on that, which will need replacements; I would presume they must be entirely (or almost entirely) in the PHP. If someone familiar with the Grid Engine could take a look and assess how much of this tool will need to be rewritten, that would be very helpful, even if they are not interested in taking on the work themselves. - Jmabel ! talk 03:42, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- I've linked this discussion on a couple of Telegram channels, to spread awareness. Meanwhile, I'm in contact with who is doing the GridEngine deprecation, they've been made aware of the problem at least. Sannita (WMF) (talk) 14:28, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not aware of the technical issues here, but this is again another example of how relying on external tools, instead of adding them to our system ends up giving problems. The tool should be a simple button for Commons users, and do the thing on-site. Theklan (talk) 10:32, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hello all! A bit late to the discussion, but I bring some good news. The first one you already know, someone stepped in for the migration of CropTool from GridEngine to Kubernetes, and we all thank them for it!
- The other good news is that the team who is in charge of the framework migration confirmed me that an extension of the deadline will be granted to allow the user to complete the migration. Of course, there still is a fixed deadline to switch off GridEngine, that is March 14, so the migration should happen in a reasonable amount of time, but at least some more time can be bought.
- More generally, the team confirmed me that tool maintainers who are actively working on the Toolforge migration can receive as well an extension to the deadline, if they ask for it. If they need help during the migration, they can also ask the team for help, by using the "help wanted" tag on Phabricator. For more info, there are also the FAQs about the migration.
- On the not-so-bright side, tools that are unmaintained are risking deactivation, unless someone steps in. About this, there is little that we can do.
- If you have any questions, please ping me, and I'll try to help out as much as I can. Also, if you know of other similar situations, please list them, so that we can try to find a solution together. Sannita (WMF) (talk) 14:39, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- Why is there little you can do? Is it not possible to make tools official WMF maintained MediaWiki extensions? GPSLeo (talk) 14:51, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- @GPSLeo Unfortunately, as I already said in other discussions, the Foundation has no possibility to step in in maintaining community-created tools (for several reasons). I did raise the point of finding a solution to this long-standing problem, but this still requires a decision from top management, and I can unfortunately only do so much to influence the outcome of the discussion. Sannita (WMF) (talk) 15:02, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe @Mike Peel can say something on the current discussion of this problem. As maintainer of the User:Pi bot he knows the problems when core functionalities of the project are kept running by one person very well. GPSLeo (talk) 16:05, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- @GPSLeo Unfortunately, as I already said in other discussions, the Foundation has no possibility to step in in maintaining community-created tools (for several reasons). I did raise the point of finding a solution to this long-standing problem, but this still requires a decision from top management, and I can unfortunately only do so much to influence the outcome of the discussion. Sannita (WMF) (talk) 15:02, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- Why is there little you can do? Is it not possible to make tools official WMF maintained MediaWiki extensions? GPSLeo (talk) 14:51, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
January 30[edit]
Text about transliteration options in categories[edit]
User:Бучач-Львів add to categories (example Revision #847091487) text about transliteration options. Are such clarifications needed here, on Commons? Микола Василечко (talk) 21:57, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- I think the part about the variant not corresponding to well-known transliteration methods should not be there, but if the other variants are at all widely used in English then they are probably worth mentioning. "Yulian Bachynsky" more reflects what would have been normal for transliterating Russian (and I'd also guess that his given name would often appear in English as "Julian", not mentioned here). I understand that present-day nationalist sentiment leaves a lot of Ukrainians unhappy that certain Ukrainian names entered English largely via Russian, but that is in fact exactly what happened. - Jmabel ! talk 22:32, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Jmabel. you call the national tradition nationalism - and this is wrong. Every nation has its own national traditions - English, French, Germans, etc., and Ukrainians have them too. --Бучач-Львів (talk) 08:18, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
- That's why I'm writing these different versions of transliteration, because at the moment I see a certain chaos. That is precisely why the amount of this chaos was smaller, and it is necessary to write different variants of transliteration of the names and surnames of Ukrainians. Jmabel. Let's take the first and last name of the Prime Minister of Ukraine Valerii Pustovoitenko or OUN leader Category:Andriy Melnyk. This is a pretty good example of the chaos I wrote about. --Бучач-Львів (talk) 08:35, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
- Jmabel. another important detail is the transfer of a soft sign and apostrophe in Ukrainian names and surnames. For example, the Ukrainian surnames Горинь and Горин are often transliterated the same way - Horyn. And if you specify different variants of transliteration, then the picture becomes clearer. --Бучач-Львів (talk) 08:52, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
- Jmabel. Regarding Ukrainian and Russian and sources, I don't agree with you for the reason that the Wiki repository as a constituent element of Wikipedia is an encyclopedia where things must be named accurately. That is, for example, John is not Jean, not Jan, not Giovanni, not Ivan. Moreover, the "Russian" names of Kyiv and Odesa were changed to Ukrainian ones in the English Wikipedia. --Бучач-Львів (talk) 11:32, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not objecting to indicating what would be the conventions used nowadays to properly represent the name in English. I am saying that for people who lived in a different era, and were commonly referred to in English by a different translation/transliteration than we might use today, we normally stick with the established form, and that is not some sort of error. E.g. we refer to "Chiang Kai-shek", not "Jiǎng Jièshí", or "Leon Trotsky", not "Lev Trotsky". - Jmabel ! talk 21:44, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- The example you cite of Jean does not apply because French uses the Latin alphabet. Russian/Ukrainian use the Cyrillic alphabet, which is not allowed in running English text. So if Jean were a Cyrillic name, then we cannot use Jean; we must use either Jon or John, and the debate is over which one to use. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 23:10, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- Debate is about: Do we need such descriptions in the categories? Are such descriptions necessary here? Is it for pages on Wikipedia or Wikidata? --Микола Василечко (talk) 17:39, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
February 02[edit]
Curly apostrophe and COM:FR#FR6[edit]
I have just declined the rename request of File:Electronic Core Module of NASA’s Ingenuity helicopter.png.
Dawnseeker2000’s rationale was “Title contains curly apostrophe which has been broken by semi-automated tools on Ingenuity (helicopter) four times in the last month by several editors”. (See Ingenuity (helicopter))
Now I’m wondering if should have renamed it. Indeed, COM:FR#FR6 ignores curly apostrophes. Any thoughts? RodRabelo7 (talk) 08:52, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- @RodRabelo7: I'd go for creating a redirect at the straight-apostrophe name. That way it won't matter which one the article uses. --bjh21 (talk) 11:18, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Or mayme users like Trappist the monk should stop running sloppy scripts? (diff) --Watchduck (quack) 14:25, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
Dust Storm in Rolla, Kansas[edit]
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Hi, What's the date of this picture? Some sources date it from April 14, 1935, and others date it from May 6, i.e. [1], [2], [3]. I wonder if there isn't a confusion with this famous picture. Thanks, Yann (talk) 16:17, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Yann: I've figured it out.
- http://www.fdrlibrary.marist.edu/archives/collections/franklin/index.php?p=digitallibrary/digitalcontent&id=3054
- The caption is a LETTER written May 6, but the PHOTO was taken April 14. The FULL caption read
- "Rolla Kansas, May 6-35. Mr. Franklin D. Roosevelt. Washington DC. Dear Mr. Roosevelt, we are mailing you a picture of the dust storm which came April 14-35. This was a northeast wind and darkness came. When this hit us the sun was shining bright and darkness was coming on at 3 o'clock in the evening. Taken from the water tower one hundred feet high. Yours truly, Chas. P. Williams. Rolla Kansas."
- But because the caption was abridged, there's confusion. Adam Cuerden (talk) 07:18, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
February 03[edit]
Wiki Loves Folklore 2024 has started, Join us![edit]
Hello Village pump, Greetings from the Wiki Loves Folklore International Team!
Wiki Loves Folklore is an international photography contest hosted on Wikimedia Commons to document folklore and intangible cultural heritage from around the world, such as folk festivals, folk dances, folk music, folk activities, folk games, folk cuisine, folk wear, folktales, folk games, folk religion, mythology, and many more.
The campaign invites participants to document photographs, videos, and audios linked to folk culture and fit within the contest's theme. Through this campaign, you may become a part of a community dedicated to preserving our intangible culture, which has been brought and passed down for thousands of years.
How can I Contribute?
The dates for the submission in the photography contest on Wikimedia Commons are from 1 February 2024 through 31 March 2024. Probably you are wondering how you can take part. It’s simple: grab a camera, record an image, video or audio under the folklore theme and start uploading or Click on Upload Now Icon which is available on right side of Wiki Loves Folklore 2024. To learn more about the rules, check out our Project page on Wikimedia Commons.
Here are the exciting prizes which you can win internationally.
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- 1st prize: 400 USD
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- Wiki Loves Folklore Postcards to top 100 Uploaders
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If you are interested in participating in the photography campaign, start photographing and collecting media of your local culture and get ready for the photo campaign happening on Wikimedia Commons. For more information about rules and prizes of the contest, refer here. For any questions, email us or join our telegram group here
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Rockpeterson (talk) 08:22, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
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Comment I tried to upload an image as a test. Apparently Special:UploadWizard?campaign=wlf_2024 only allows files to be uploaded under CC BY-SA 4.0. Is that correct? RodRabelo7 (talk) 11:37, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
What to do about wrong arrow heads in SVG?[edit]
Arrow heads created in Inkscape have a tendency to look wrong, when the image is rendered as PNG. (Inkscape itself exports a correct PNG, but Commons does it wrong. So does my Ubuntu.) See the image on the right. The heads of the red arrows show three problems: Wrong direction, wrong fill color, and wrong size. (In the SVG both have the same size, but in the PNG the upper one is smaller.) Is there some non-tedious thing I can do to fix this? After all, there is nothing wrong with the other arrows. (Compare this old example with simple code.) Greetings, Watchduck (quack) 14:15, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- I see at least two bad arrows (path17 near "city" and path32 near "port city"). Both use marker-end ConcaveTriangle or a clone of it.
- Commons supports SVG 1.1, but the file uses
orient="auto-start-reverse"
- which is SVG 2.0. An SVG 1.1 renderer will not understand the keyword, so it will not do the expected rotation.
- I changed the keyword to "auto" (which is SVG 1.1).
- Glrx (talk) 16:39, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Glrx: Thanks. So Inkscape generates inconsistent code. Unfortunately I can not just find all "auto-start-reverse" and replace them by "auto", because that would invert the heads at the other end, as seen here. Do you know a safe find-and-replace solution? BTW, I had to replace
fill:context-stroke;by the actual color. Is that also too new for SVG 1.1? --Watchduck (quack) 17:52, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Glrx: Thanks. So Inkscape generates inconsistent code. Unfortunately I can not just find all "auto-start-reverse" and replace them by "auto", because that would invert the heads at the other end, as seen here. Do you know a safe find-and-replace solution? BTW, I had to replace
- @Watchduck:
- No, I do not know a safe solution. I got lucky with the replacement because it was for
marker-endrather thanmarker-start. - Yes,
fill:context-strokeis new for SVG 2.0. - Glrx (talk) 03:07, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
I recently made some updates and additions to Commons:Editor's index to Commons (a.k.a. COM:Glossary). I suspect there is a lot more undocumented jargon, outdated info (until just now, it still talked about "OTRS" instead of "VRT"), etc. There are also some ill-formed anchors, etc. It would probably be quite useful for a few other people to have a go at it. - Jmabel ! talk 19:52, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
Victorian Turkish baths[edit]
If you ave either knowledge of or interest in Victorian Turkish baths (or would just like to put in some time helping a user who seems expert on their topic, but not on Commons) your help would be very much appreciated at Commons:Categories for discussion/2024/02/Category:Victorian Turkish baths. We seem to have a user who is a legitimate subject matter expert, but with very little knowledge of Commons. We need someone who can either guide him through properly setting up this category (and possibly subcategories) or just take over and do it themself (or somewhere between the two). I noticed the problematic category in the midst of doing a broad cleanup of parentless categories, but I don't think I bring more to this than a random knowledgeable Commons user. Thanks in advance. - Jmabel ! talk 19:57, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
February 04[edit]
Timed Text from automatic speech recognition[edit]
Hi Commons, is it generally desirable to have timed text (closed captions) for time based media (Video, Audio) generated from automatic speech recognition (ASR) like OpenAI's Whisper? Is there a way to mark such timed texts as machine-generated? Thanks in advance. Rillke(q?) 10:25, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- When transcribing a video, for example, is there any way to generate the time (like 00:02:16,612 --> 00:02:19,376), instead of having to synchronize it manually? 2804:14D:5C32:4673:C7BD:4252:668A:7518 20:08, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- I use OpenAI's Whisper locally to provide me with a basic synchroniszed transcript (srt/vtt/...) and then correct some mistakes. In YouTube, when I tested that 3y ago, I could also feed a transcript and YouTube did the timing for me. -- Rillke(q?) 08:09, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- If the video is on youtube you can download the subtitle file using yt-dlp or youtube-dl (or if its your own video on youtube you can directly download it). I think the command is
youtube-dl --write-sub --sub-lang en --skip-download URL(where you replace URL). You can also download all subtitles using--all-subsinstead of--sub-lang enand the command is probably the same foryt-dlpexcept for the first word. To download auto-generated subtitles use--write-auto-subinstead of that /--sub-lang en. - -
- @Rillke It would be very useful to have that and I have mentioned that elsewhere. It would massively boost multilingualism and contributor productivity (time they could use for more contributions or more transcriptions). A way to mark them would be setting categories like Category:Videos with machine-generated captions to check which then, once they have been checked & edited, move to categories like Category:Videos by Terra X with Esperanto subtitle file that then could also be narrated (redubbed) by humans and machines. One issue there is that there aren't that many useful videos with voice such as explanatory videos and documentaries on WMC, but I still think there are enough to make this very much needed. Another issue is that in the video the CC button only displays the language but not that it's auto-generated which could be useful once more people add such transcripts. Prototyperspective (talk) 11:41, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
February 05[edit]
Any way to browse the data namespace?[edit]
Hi there, I'm toying with geojson, and would like to see some prior art to help me understand how to use geojson on Wikipedia. However, I haven't seen any structured way to see what's in the Data namespace that's used to store the geojson files, and how files in there are being used. There doesn't appear to be a category structure that I can use. Is there a way to browse that environment? Milliped (talk) 14:33, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Milliped: Hi, and welcome. You can start with special:prefixindex/data:. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:59, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
Delete image (<7 days) unused content[edit]
I recently uploaded a logo and would like it deleted promptly <7 days. Should I use the {speedydelete|G7} template on the file description page for deletion?" (double curly brackets of course). Accuracy-searcher (talk) 22:06, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- Commons:Criteria for speedy deletion
- G7. Author or uploader request deletion
- Original author or uploader requests deletion of recently created (<7 days) unused content.
- I not sure where to add the template to the image for the deletion. Accuracy-searcher (talk) 22:23, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Accuracy-searcher: Add it literally anywhere on the file page. Adding at the top is customary, but not important. As long as the file is not in use anywhere, it will almost certainly be deleted within a day. - Jmabel ! talk 22:49, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Jmabel: Done! thank you! Accuracy-searcher (talk) 22:53, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Accuracy-searcher: For this particular criterion, we have a shortcut {{G7}}. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 12:14, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Jmabel: Done! thank you! Accuracy-searcher (talk) 22:53, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- I suggest you to add this code (see) to your common.js. RodRabelo7 (talk) 15:18, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Accuracy-searcher: Add it literally anywhere on the file page. Adding at the top is customary, but not important. As long as the file is not in use anywhere, it will almost certainly be deleted within a day. - Jmabel ! talk 22:49, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
February 06[edit]
replace files > 100 MB[edit]
The file File:Decline_and_Fall_of_the_Roman_Empire_vol_2_(1896).djvu has two pages (viii and ix) missing and has about 112 MB. I want to upload a patched version that has these 2 pages but the upload interface does not allow this because it refuses to take files larger than 100 MB. How do I get this done? - R. J. Mathar (talk) 15:20, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- @R. J. Mathar User talk:Rillke/bigChunkedUpload.js#Overwriting an existing file. RZuo (talk) 15:56, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Yes. Adding these two scripts worked and replaced the big file. R. J. Mathar (talk) 18:02, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
importScript replacement[edit]
because importScript was deprecated, all mentions of it on help pages should be replaced with mw.loader. see mw:ResourceLoader/Migration_guide_(users)/en#How_to_migrate. RZuo (talk) 18:20, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
Is there any examples of DMCA takedowns being undeleted?[edit]
I could not find any--Trade (talk) 20:58, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Trade: e.g. Commons:Office actions/DMCA notices/2021#Update: Content restored. SCP-2000 03:36, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
Danish rail construction sites[edit]
These pictures where taken around june 2002, likely around kobenhagen. It could be a metro or rail line.
Smiley.toerist (talk) 23:32, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Smiley.toerist That's the metro line somewhere near Category:Bella Center station. Hjart (talk) 23:56, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- I created two new categories for the in between station images: Category:Copenhagen metro line 1 and Category:Copenhagen metro line 1 & 2 Rename file names necessary as this is not a rail construction site, but building and road works. Smiley.toerist (talk) 10:53, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
February 07[edit]
SVG Translate Tool[edit]
It seems, SVG Translate Tool is out of service. So again translating files manually. So sad ... Manlleus (talk) 16:51, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- Back online Manlleus (talk) 01:53, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
Analog gradients[edit]
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I'm trying to come up with an appropriate category for the printing technique at File:Helix, v.1, no.3.5, May 4, 1967 - DPLA - c5473574c42f7978da5186b4964c5fdd (back and front).jpg. Category:Color gradient is specifically under Category:Color in computer graphics, and the parent categories of Category:Gradient fields suggest a precise calculation. This file shows the use of applying a continuous shading of ink to some sort of printing press (probably offset) in 1967. (I've also seen it done with silk screening, but they wouldn't have silk-screened several thousand copies of a low-budget newspaper.) It's definitely a printing technique we should have an example of, and I wouldn't be surprised if we have others. - Jmabel ! talk 23:37, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Jmabel: You could make a new cat, perhaps "Category:Analog color gradient". The progression BIVROYGBIVR is very interesting. The color does seem somewhat offset in some places. There are defects in coloring the snakes behind Medusa's head. Presumably, the Seattle Public Library would have more examples from Helix on file. Sadly, artist Gary Eagle is no longer with us so we can't ask him. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 11:30, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- We have the full run of the Helix, minus a few pages that had clear copyright notices on some content (if it was less than a page, I've just redacted the relevant part, e.g. File:Helix, v.1, no.6, Jun. 23, 1967 - DPLA - 961d05f5a48a886514e066f36ac49228 (page 5).jpg).
- As for SPL: they don't necessarily know more than I do on this, but I am in touch with Paul Dorpat (who, sadly, is sliding into dementia but often can remember some relevant facts, but he's the one who gave SPL a complete run of the Helix), Art Chantry, and several other relevant people. On Gary Eagle, there's a fair chance that anything you found about him comes from me writing it, but maybe not; turns out he has a public-facing Facebook page down to the end, so that helped me track things down. - Jmabel ! talk 20:39, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Jmabel This is called "rainbow roll". Counterfeit Purses (talk) 17:03, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- And the English Wikipedia has a related-looking article at en:Split-fount inking. Omphalographer (talk) 19:16, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Counterfeit Purses and Omphalographer: thanks so much! - Jmabel ! talk 20:39, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- Looks like the Helix used this a lot. I've been able to place a bunch of examples in the newly created Category:Split-fount inking just from going through their 1967 issues. A few combine this in interesting ways with other printing techniques, or make other unusual, clever use of it:
- And the English Wikipedia has a related-looking article at en:Split-fount inking. Omphalographer (talk) 19:16, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
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- Jmabel ! talk 21:28, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- I once worked for a printer who occasionally used the technique on a Multi duplicator, but I never heard a name for it. He had to pause and wash up every few hundred impressions or else the gradients would diffuse into a murky mixture. The effect would probably be easier to manage on a press proper, with a wider fountain and better inking control.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 07:18, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- By the way, this now makes sense for me of the name of the (definitive) book on the Seattle poster art of this period, Split Fountain Hieroglyphics. - Jmabel ! talk 19:35, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- I once worked for a printer who occasionally used the technique on a Multi duplicator, but I never heard a name for it. He had to pause and wash up every few hundred impressions or else the gradients would diffuse into a murky mixture. The effect would probably be easier to manage on a press proper, with a wider fountain and better inking control.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 07:18, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- Jmabel ! talk 21:28, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- There is that 1970s psychedelic hippie font again. We tried last time to come up with a name for the font so we could add a category. Can anyone suggest a temporary name, so we can have a category? --RAN (talk) 00:20, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
February 08[edit]
Double Vienna tram category[edit]
Category:Vienna tram type A. There seems to be two types A. The modern version and the historic version. I wanted to add Category:Trams with entrance gates, but this only applies to the old type tram. Smiley.toerist (talk) 10:05, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- It’s better to split it, no doubt. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 11:40, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- Moved modern trams to Category:Vienna tram type ULF A. Smiley.toerist (talk) 11:59, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
Hi, This file was on English Wikipedia with "from the painting by artist Frank Wright (1868-1924)", but I can't find any artist with these dates. There is a Category:Frank Wright (painter) (1860-1923). Is he the same person? Yann (talk) 12:17, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- At least the artist's signature in File:Frank Wright - Waitakeres - Sarjeant Gallery.jpg (lower left) looks quite similar. --Rosenzweig τ 14:06, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
HotCat notice[edit]
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This seems odd, but nonetheless please see: MediaWiki talk:Gadget-HotCat.js#Feature request: Ignore square brackets. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:10, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
AI drawings of specific people or logos that are unable to be uploaded[edit]
Is there a policy on creating ai drawings of people for which there do not exist any public domain images to be hosted here? For a long time this File:Kim Jong-Un Photorealistic-Sketch.jpg image was used for Kim Jong Un, and I imagine a lot more articles about people could have images if we did this. But it also risks being misleading or being disliked by users. I imagine the same could be done for logos but that would also run into issues of being misleading. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 19:35, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Immanuelle: the issues here are almost exactly the same as for original, non-photographic art by our own contributors. For people, it's hard to have something that is both reasonably accurate and not derivative of copyrighted work. (For logos, I think it is literally impossible.) For people, I don't think there is any clear consensus here. I personally would not encourage adding any large number such works until we hash out more of a consensus, but I'm also fully aware that the only way we will hash out a consensus is through the uploading of at least a small number of such works. - Jmabel ! talk 20:54, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
Batch of wrong locations[edit]
Checking the location of a picture in the Ephesus region I found it was at a wrong spot. Then I found that probably all pictures of a set by one photographer, imported from Flickr, had the same location. At https://wikimap.toolforge.org/?wp=false&cluster=false&zoom=16&lat=037.920367&lon=0027.287292 one can find 128 of them. I would hope someone can delete them (the location, not the pictures, they are rather good and informative) in one fell swoop. Dosseman (talk) 19:53, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
Can someone help with this deletion request[edit]
I made this deletion page Commons:Deletion requests/File:Dead Stream Swamp MI.jpg and I pasted the requested code in, but it still says something went wrong with the subpage.
The template says "Here is the full syntax again, in case you misplaced it:" which sounds like it should be giving the syntax to make the page, but apparently it is not doing so. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 19:59, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- You erroneously inserted {{Delete}} template into the request page. This template should be inserted into the image page. Ruslik (talk) 20:19, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- In the future, I strongly recommend using the "Nominate for deletion" tool rather than doing this by hand. - Jmabel ! talk 20:56, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
Signature help[edit]
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Can anyone make out the signature on the bottom panel of File:Helix, v.5, no.9, Dec. 12, 1968 - DPLA - b4b749b194d7f45676e4a241a7cce198 (page 20).jpg? "M. [something] 1968". Might even be someone pretty well known, because the one at upper left is by Gilbert Shelton, signing only as "Gilbert". PD because of lack of notice. - Jmabel ! talk 20:32, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
Can these media be uploaded here if they have watermarks[edit]
These photos are some of the only ones I have found of this particular type of dance. They come from 1949 so they are not protected by copyright in China, but they also have a watermark on them. So are they not allowed to be uploaded due to the watermarks? https://web.archive.org/web/20221014133012/https://k.sina.com.cn/article_5898468734_15f937d7e01901taf5.html#/ Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 23:42, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Immanuelle: watermarks are discouraged but not forbidden. In this case they could easily be cropped out without affecting the main subject at all, so scarcely impair the images’ usability. But are the photos also copyright-free in the USA? I believe they would have to have been free in China by 1995.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 07:29, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
February 09[edit]
Wikimedia blog on flickypedia[edit]
https://diff.wikimedia.org/2024/02/09/introducing-flickypedia-a-better-way-to-get-flickr-images-on-wikimedia-commons/ —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 11:09, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
Query media by category?[edit]
Hello,
In short I want to see all the videos in a category sorted by length longest to shortest. I remember there was a tool similar to PetScan (but older looking) that allowed you to do this, but I can't remember what it was. The results were tabular and it wasn't quickstatements, any of the commons.wikimedia search interfaces. Does anyone know what it was called or if I can do this with another tool? Carlinmack (talk) 15:52, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
Category merge request[edit]
Hello, could someone assist me by merging Category:Banyan robes into Category:Banyans (clothing)? Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThePinkShoes (talk • contribs) 16:39, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
- I'll do this. Trivial with Cat-a-lot, which you might want to look into. - Jmabel ! talk 19:39, 9 February 2024 (UTC)